Curse

allamerican54 · Dec 24, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16

I need a bigger knowledge base on Tanking the FoW and Tanking in general. I having trouble keeping aggro. Some guides or tips would be highly appreciated. Thank you!

Solus Spartan · Dec 24, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

If your draw the aggro correctly and bunch the mob up, as you should, stand on the side where your team-mates are facing, so when they begin to nuke, they will not be on the edge of the aggro circle, and the aggro will not brake.
Having the Ss (if your doing 5-8man fow) bring sv/av makes it easier to deal with the Shadow Army and Abyassal's, but when vsing undead just make sure you survive and group them if you can. When in the spider cave, just trigger the pop-ups and try and tank the damage, but in the caves there is not much you can do.

Hope it helps.

Da Mad M00 · Dec 24, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

FoW doesn't require any tanking. Doing some proper tanking down there will only slow down your run. The damage output there is really not that high. Just get a monk that knows how to use prot spirit and you are done

The Pkat · Dec 24, 2007, 09:28 AM // 09:28

Something like this should do: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Obsidian_Tank

You are only there to get aggro and survive (alot of tanks in fow forget this). Don't fight. Try to ball em up nicely outside the aggro range of your team and let the nukers do their work.
Never walk back towards your team while aggroing. I've seen so many warriors do this, I wonder why?
You should also think about lining up casters. Agrro them, walk a bit away from them so they all nicely together and then go stand next to them. The melee should follow you so you have all enemies together.

Abedeus · Dec 24, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

You know... In the Me/D build + bonder from DopeFish's thread I could tank 3 elementalists, necro, mesmer, two monks and a warrior. So I think that a good team that won't fail will be okay without a tank. You dont even need prot spirit...

Sol Deathgard · Dec 24, 2007, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pkat

Something like this should do: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Obsidian_Tank

completly worthless build. This is coming from a tank that understands how to do it without using crap like this. trick is simple, have your team stay out of your aggro circle while you get the mob's attention, a prot spirit from your monk will help but not 100% needed, and once all the enemies are focused on you your team moves in. To be honest 1 stance & good armor is all you need & the rest of your build is dmg, maybe a self heal to help take some pressure off your monks also. Obsidian tank is utter garbage & should just die out.

Steboy93 · Dec 24, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Tbh there is no need to tank anywhere really, especially in FoW.

Quaker · Dec 24, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36

So, to sum up what people are saying:

Unless you are moving back toward your group, you should be able to maintain agro if you stay in one place. Agro usually breaks because some of the rest of the team gets too close. Often this is a healer who is trying to heal you, which is why you want to use a bonder type healer that heals you without needing to get withing agro range. (Especially if you are surrounded on all sides by enemies, a healer can't get within healing range of you, without agroing something closer.)

I know that many people do set up groups to use the tank/nuke method of attack. And it does work (albeit, slowly) if agro isn't broken. I would agree, though, that tanking isn't necessary in FoW (or anywhere, most likely), but if that's what you're doing - enjoy!

Molock · Dec 24, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Tanks in FoW slow you down considerably. I recommend bringing a dps warrior along with ele, necros, mesmer, monk, etc (no bonder, that also slows you down in FoW) and you can clear the place in under two hours.

Solus Spartan · Dec 24, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steboy93

Tbh there is no need to tank anywhere really, especially in FoW.

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

HawkofStorms · Dec 25, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

Tanking is worthless in every place accept for DoA. Every place it is a waste of a slot. A good prot monk (hard to find in a PuG) can migate damage just as much as a tank. UW is more acceptable with the aataxes, but a good flashbot should make short work of them.

iridescentfyre · Dec 25, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

K. In that case, I'm interested to hear where in the game you believe a tank to be necessary.

Llint · Dec 25, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Do not want.

1234567789

Redvex · Dec 25, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

I finish fow in 3:30 without a tank

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 25, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Hmmm, sure mate, only craploads of people have proved you wrong. Besides, why waste a whole char on something that can be done with one skill (i.e, Save Yourselves)? Tanking = Uber Fail.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redvex

I finish fow in 3:30 without a tank

Wow...

I finish FoW in 1:30 without a tank. sometimes with a warrior, but not tanking. Eviscerate spiker with essence of celerity ftw.

Redvex · Dec 25, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Wow...

I finish FoW in 1:30 without a tank. sometimes with a warrior, but not tanking. Eviscerate spiker with essence of celerity ftw.

Ye but 2 player + heroes it's quite difficult. If the human tank is a bad player he bring the entire party to sure death. But it was my first time and i look on wiki and various disconnession i lose an hour for sure ^^

Solus Spartan · Dec 25, 2007, 09:46 AM // 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

K. In that case, I'm interested to hear where in the game you believe a tank to be necessary.

Uw? Horsemen?

MirkoTeran · Dec 25, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

Uw? Horsemen?

Paragon with SY & FA = party of 'tanks'?

Koning · Dec 25, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

Uw? Horsemen?

I think you are the one that fails here.

Dec 24, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16	#1
allamerican54 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Arcane Artisits	Tankng and FoW I need a bigger knowledge base on Tanking the FoW and Tanking in general. I having trouble keeping aggro. Some guides or tips would be highly appreciated. Thank you!

Dec 24, 2007, 09:28 AM // 09:28	#4
The Pkat Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Guild: IXS Profession: Mo/	Something like this should do: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Obsidian_Tank You are only there to get aggro and survive (alot of tanks in fow forget this). Don't fight. Try to ball em up nicely outside the aggro range of your team and let the nukers do their work. Never walk back towards your team while aggroing. I've seen so many warriors do this, I wonder why? You should also think about lining up casters. Agrro them, walk a bit away from them so they all nicely together and then go stand next to them. The melee should follow you so you have all enemies together. Last edited by The Pkat; Dec 24, 2007 at 09:33 AM // 09:33..

Dec 24, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20	#2
Solus Spartan Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Australia Guild: [Lawl] Profession: Mo/	If your draw the aggro correctly and bunch the mob up, as you should, stand on the side where your team-mates are facing, so when they begin to nuke, they will not be on the edge of the aggro circle, and the aggro will not brake. Having the Ss (if your doing 5-8man fow) bring sv/av makes it easier to deal with the Shadow Army and Abyassal's, but when vsing undead just make sure you survive and group them if you can. When in the spider cave, just trigger the pop-ups and try and tank the damage, but in the caves there is not much you can do. Hope it helps.

Dec 24, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02	#3
Da Mad M00 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/Mo	FoW doesn't require any tanking. Doing some proper tanking down there will only slow down your run. The damage output there is really not that high. Just get a monk that knows how to use prot spirit and you are done

Dec 24, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53	#5
Abedeus Grotto Attendant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Niflheim Profession: R/	You know... In the Me/D build + bonder from DopeFish's thread I could tank 3 elementalists, necro, mesmer, two monks and a warrior. So I think that a good team that won't fail will be okay without a tank. You dont even need prot spirit...

Dec 24, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30	#7
Steboy93 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] \| Ex-Officer [TAM] Profession: W/	Tbh there is no need to tank anywhere really, especially in FoW.

Dec 24, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36	#8
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	So, to sum up what people are saying: Unless you are moving back toward your group, you should be able to maintain agro if you stay in one place. Agro usually breaks because some of the rest of the team gets too close. Often this is a healer who is trying to heal you, which is why you want to use a bonder type healer that heals you without needing to get withing agro range. (Especially if you are surrounded on all sides by enemies, a healer can't get within healing range of you, without agroing something closer.) I know that many people do set up groups to use the tank/nuke method of attack. And it does work (albeit, slowly) if agro isn't broken. I would agree, though, that tanking isn't necessary in FoW (or anywhere, most likely), but if that's what you're doing - enjoy!

Dec 24, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58	#9
Molock Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Qu??bec Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo] Profession: E/	Tanks in FoW slow you down considerably. I recommend bringing a dps warrior along with ele, necros, mesmer, monk, etc (no bonder, that also slows you down in FoW) and you can clear the place in under two hours.

Dec 25, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14	#11
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Tanking is worthless in every place accept for DoA. Every place it is a waste of a slot. A good prot monk (hard to find in a PuG) can migate damage just as much as a tank. UW is more acceptable with the aataxes, but a good flashbot should make short work of them.

Dec 25, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47	#14
Redvex Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: R/	I finish fow in 3:30 without a tank